Here we pick a topic and hopefully chat it up. For starters I put forward those 12 cartoons posted in the Danish newspaper Jyllands-Posten.

My opinion follows:

12 Cartoons in a Danish newspaper of Muhammad, one very cleverly with a bomb on his head, linking the Muslim profit with modern terrorism. Whilst clearly being in bad taste, some Muslim bodies are up in arms that Muhammad was depicted at all, as he is simply not drawn or painted or depicted in any way in Islamic culture.

Like I said, yes, it was in bad taste. I'm not sure how mature or relevant the cartoons were supposed to be, but like all the world leaders are saying freedom of speech is a central tenet of democratic societies - that one would be permitted to publish an article on how the Queen is a pallid tart who is ruining Earth for everyone, should they desire.

But that might not be the most responsible course of action, having not considered the international ramifications. Of course, it would be damn near impossible to predict the 11 deaths this insanity would bring, but I can't see how the publishers of the article believed their 12 cartoons to be responsible journalism at any rate.

At a time where the media is at its most powerful, all we can hope is for heightened responsibility, tolerance and the prevalence of cooler heads.


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Bigger Than Big, Stronger Than Strong

Sadly my knowledge on this subject is more or less limited to the bits they did on 'The Daily Show' and 'The Colbert Report' (and Teams post), but in the spirt of posting i shall write some.
I think its damned stupid that there can be all this fuss of some freaging cartoons. But they were in rather bad taste. I understand that Muhummad isnt supposed to be depicted in anyway, but is that really a reason to start fires and kill folk? You think people would be more rational. And the media needs to step up. They sould have never printed them in the first place.

on a slightly related note, has anybody actually seen the cartoons? and if so, is there a web page were i can see em?

Wasman wrote:

I think its damned stupid that there can be all this fuss of some freaging cartoons

Well it is a totally differnet culture. Like you said, Muhammed isn't supposed to be showed in anyway. No Cartoons, statues, posters, ANYTHING. On top of that, they put a bomb in his turban which is so insulting it's incredible.

That being said, it's ironic how the author was making a point that the islamic, muslim people are violent and strap bombs to themselves. And in protest, they go and burn down an embassy and riot the streets..

Intersting...


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tat6789 wrote:

i gave this job to Team because I know he doesn't have a soul.

It was fucking ridiculous. When I saw the riots on the news I wanted to buy Korans by the gross and take a big steamy dump on them, but that would have started World War 3 so I didn't do it.

A few radical Musilms in Denmark brought the cartoons to the attention of Syria. However, they also brought several other blasphemous cartoons that were not published in the paper, and news that the Danish also had daily Koran burnings in public.

This whole situation is what happens when you give billions of oil money to people stuck in the post-classical era.

Australian journalist and blogger Tim Blair's site has the cartoons. Scroll down about half way till you see some pictures, and see what's worth killing for.


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Bigger Than Big, Stronger Than Strong

I think that printing the cartoons was kind of a dick move by the Danish newspaper, but people have every right to be dicks. i can go on the internet and probably find all kinds of terrible stuff that would offend both muslim extremists and westerners alike, why is there such an outcry about this?

I think it represents the growing cultural tensions between the muslim world and the west. after september 11th I saw alot of Islamic officials talking about how terrorism does not represent Islam, and how we shouldn't judge the faith on how crazy people act. I'm not seeing as much of that anymore. Terrorists won an election in Palestine, Iran all the sudden decided to start threatening Isreal, Insurgents still killing troops and civilians in Iraq, Al Queda releasing more tapes. It seems like the Muslim world is slowly shifting towards extremism. I think this cartoon stuff is just a step. people are acting crazy about this stuff and less people in the middle east are discouraging it than i would expect, and some are engouraging it. people need to suck it up and act responsible on both sides.

I think the view the cartoons represent are nothing new, but now the Muslim extremist movement has one singular article and image to embody what they oppose, so it is easier to 'rally the troops' and begin the propaganda machine - such as the fact that Q'urans were being burned in Denmark, a claim which was rigorously reputed by the Danish Prime Minister.

I think this is one of those 'straw that broke the camels back' situations, as I do not deem the cartoons to be overtly insulting or vulgar, just childish.


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Bigger Than Big, Stronger Than Strong

I think that the Muslim world needs to understand and respect other nation's freedom of speach. Althought the cartoons were in bad taste and i personally wouldn't have gone there that is still no excuse for killing. That would be as asanine as a Syrian paper making an anti-Jesus cartoon and christians all over the world attacking Syrian embassies.



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Because of all this cartoon crap, an Iranian newspaper is holding a contest to see who can make the best cartoon about the holocaust.
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,251-2027749,00.html
This is really fucked up. All its gonna do is cause more problems. I mean, thosands of peoples die. Coincidently, i just finished reading the book 'night' and wathced 'schindler's list'

Wasman wrote:

Because of all this cartoon crap, an Iranian newspaper is holding a contest to see who can make the best cartoon about the holocaust.
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,251-2027749,00.html
This is really fucked up. All its gonna do is cause more problems. I mean, thosands of peoples die. Coincidently, i just finished reading the book 'night' and wathced 'schindler's list'

The Jews won't do anything. Being persecuted is nothing new to them. They have terrorists attack several times a week. They'll shrug it off and continue to be the toughest damn race this world has ever seen. In recorded history, many many countries have come against the Jews and tried to whipe them out as an entire race and they have all failed..


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tat6789 wrote:

i gave this job to Team because I know he doesn't have a soul.

You're fucking weird, Pads.


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Tell me how he died.

I will tell you how he lived.

Um, Jewish race?


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Discoballs wrote:

Um, Jewish race?

Yes, the Jewish race. That is the Race of Jews that it talks about in the Bible and through out history. It is a religion, it is a race. Modern day "israeli's"

When do you ever hear anyone say "I'm Israeli" They don't. They say Jewish. When people talk about Israel, they say "The Jews".


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tat6789 wrote:

i gave this job to Team because I know he doesn't have a soul.

Pads4Life wrote:

When do you ever hear anyone say "I'm Israeli" They don't. They say Jewish. When people talk about Israel, they say "The Jews".

This is because Israel is a country. People in Israel say "I'm Israeli" when they refer to their nation, whereas Australian Jews, for example, either state they are Jewish - their religion, or Australian - their nationality. Thus, they do not refer to themselves as Israeli because they are not citizens of Israel.
However, their heritage may be Israeli.

Hope that clears things up for you Paddy-Melt.


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Bigger Than Big, Stronger Than Strong

Wow, Hitler called them the Jewish race. He was wrong. If they are a race, why can people who are of any ethnicity converty to Judaism? Also Genetecists have traced the ethnicity of the early Jews to be predominately African in origin, there is a tribe in Africa who's genetic ancestry is the same as that of modern Jews, so I think the term "Jewish race" is too convoluted.


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